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	<title>Comments on: Digital Distribution is it Right for Oz ? &#8211; Truth, Australia Can’t Handle the Truth!</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Hastings</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Hastings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An excellent read with so many truths backing it.  Many of these also apply to the market here in the United States, though I can&#039;t attest to how comparative these issues are.  I don&#039;t really keep up with developments in Australia past the recent Left 4 Dead business.

People are always going to want physical copies of the media they possess.  Maybe not everyone, but most likely the majority of consumers for the foreseeable future.  Sure, most of the hardcore, vocal pieces of the gaming community are going to shift their eyes to the horizon from where digital distribution offers a more convenient and space-saving collection method, but they hardly amount to a large quantity of people in the larger picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent read with so many truths backing it.  Many of these also apply to the market here in the United States, though I can&#8217;t attest to how comparative these issues are.  I don&#8217;t really keep up with developments in Australia past the recent Left 4 Dead business.</p>
<p>People are always going to want physical copies of the media they possess.  Maybe not everyone, but most likely the majority of consumers for the foreseeable future.  Sure, most of the hardcore, vocal pieces of the gaming community are going to shift their eyes to the horizon from where digital distribution offers a more convenient and space-saving collection method, but they hardly amount to a large quantity of people in the larger picture.</p>
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		<title>By: twodogsz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twodogsz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article OZ and awesome point Boony. Given the hardware structure of the 360 this would have to be on MS&#039;s list of ideas. It would also save me time/space on downloads. :)

Oz your point with the DVD 9 is valid in adding more content to a disc. But that may well sacrifice the read speed advantage that DVD maintains over the much larger Blu Ray where developers commonly use the extra space to duplicate code across the disc so as to speed up reading of data. The other alternative is mandatory installs, which with the exclusion of hard drives on arcade 360&#039;s has been rendered impossible on 360 titles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article OZ and awesome point Boony. Given the hardware structure of the 360 this would have to be on MS&#8217;s list of ideas. It would also save me time/space on downloads. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oz your point with the DVD 9 is valid in adding more content to a disc. But that may well sacrifice the read speed advantage that DVD maintains over the much larger Blu Ray where developers commonly use the extra space to duplicate code across the disc so as to speed up reading of data. The other alternative is mandatory installs, which with the exclusion of hard drives on arcade 360&#8242;s has been rendered impossible on 360 titles.</p>
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		<title>By: xboxoz360</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xboxoz360]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Boony, you&#039;re right on the money. Apple via a thing called Norton Disc-Doubler used to do something very similar, And the amazing thing about the software, and Apple OS combined, and I&#039;m talking back in OS 7.2 era, is that it could compress, uncompress, use, and rec0mress files ON THE FLY even Photoshop, Quark Xpress and the like.

I know, I used it to get almost 1.5 gig of data on 2 &quot;monster&quot; 500 meg HDD&#039;s . . My poor 6100 mac had a &quot;massive&quot; 500mg HDD, and an additional 500mg HDD (not gig younger one, just meg) and the combination of the Apple OS with it&#039;s PowerPC processors (which basically power the 360 btw) could open, use and then zip files on the fly without a hint of it being done in the background, and this was high volume files used for multimedia, print-press etc.

So given that, something very similar could be easily done today. And you&#039;ll find many 360 developers use similar techniques now with their games to fit the huge games they have onto one 7.6 gig DVD9 disc.

We&#039;ve fallen into the old, &quot;If it&#039;s big, it must be better&quot; syndrome yet again. When in fact, if you leave a developer and programmer together long enough, they will find many ways to make their product work even better than first thought.

It&#039;s often the publisher that slows things down, or requires cuts or various measures to sell more goods. 

It could be done easily through one of the cores and software, as the 360 does in fact have 6 multithreading paths running through its 3 cores, so giving one of those threads the sole job of doing such things on the fly isn&#039;t quite out of the question, in todays technological era.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Boony, you&#8217;re right on the money. Apple via a thing called Norton Disc-Doubler used to do something very similar, And the amazing thing about the software, and Apple OS combined, and I&#8217;m talking back in OS 7.2 era, is that it could compress, uncompress, use, and rec0mress files ON THE FLY even Photoshop, Quark Xpress and the like.</p>
<p>I know, I used it to get almost 1.5 gig of data on 2 &#8220;monster&#8221; 500 meg HDD&#8217;s . . My poor 6100 mac had a &#8220;massive&#8221; 500mg HDD, and an additional 500mg HDD (not gig younger one, just meg) and the combination of the Apple OS with it&#8217;s PowerPC processors (which basically power the 360 btw) could open, use and then zip files on the fly without a hint of it being done in the background, and this was high volume files used for multimedia, print-press etc.</p>
<p>So given that, something very similar could be easily done today. And you&#8217;ll find many 360 developers use similar techniques now with their games to fit the huge games they have onto one 7.6 gig DVD9 disc.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve fallen into the old, &#8220;If it&#8217;s big, it must be better&#8221; syndrome yet again. When in fact, if you leave a developer and programmer together long enough, they will find many ways to make their product work even better than first thought.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s often the publisher that slows things down, or requires cuts or various measures to sell more goods. </p>
<p>It could be done easily through one of the cores and software, as the 360 does in fact have 6 multithreading paths running through its 3 cores, so giving one of those threads the sole job of doing such things on the fly isn&#8217;t quite out of the question, in todays technological era.</p>
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		<title>By: BOONY for PM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BOONY for PM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as downloading games in general even when it comes to consoles, developers could be smart and rather than dumping the whole to a HDD (similar to Xbox Originals) they could create a compressed install file which would ease the burden of downloads a little. so instead of trying to fully download a dump blu-ray game which could be 50+gig, they could reduce that significally through compression. However, this raises the issues that console could effectively become static PC&#039;s that aren&#039;t upgradable. Therefore the simplicity that many gamers have enjoyed with consoles could well and truly be gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as downloading games in general even when it comes to consoles, developers could be smart and rather than dumping the whole to a HDD (similar to Xbox Originals) they could create a compressed install file which would ease the burden of downloads a little. so instead of trying to fully download a dump blu-ray game which could be 50+gig, they could reduce that significally through compression. However, this raises the issues that console could effectively become static PC&#8217;s that aren&#8217;t upgradable. Therefore the simplicity that many gamers have enjoyed with consoles could well and truly be gone.</p>
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		<title>By: silvercube</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silvercube]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting to read responses to people who live in other places besides USA. 

The truth is out there.. lol X-Files. I love X-Files!! ^_^

Movie coming out in July!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to read responses to people who live in other places besides USA. </p>
<p>The truth is out there.. lol X-Files. I love X-Files!! ^_^</p>
<p>Movie coming out in July!</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow Wave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shadow Wave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when digital downloads, gets a &quot;resell&quot; option then it might become more interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when digital downloads, gets a &#8220;resell&#8221; option then it might become more interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: xboxoz360</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xboxoz360]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the effort Publishers are going to these days to ensure sale. By using Collectors and Limited Editions with substantial gear included for not more than an added $10 . . . Collectors - of which I am one, do like to have something solid to hold on to. See, view and discuss with friends, rather than a pic on a screen.

They are creating a &quot;desire to own&quot; by doing so, and also upping the desire to retain the item, as you&#039;ll see very few Collectors or real Limited Edition games back in the secondhand shelves a week later or even a month later. Given the high volume of sales of these, which Publishers have cottoned on to btw, we will not see the demise of Solid Disc Sales for some time, if at all.

That said, Digital DIstribution (DD) is or will be the way of the future, but there needs to be a marrying of the two, as literally millions of jobs lay in the balance, huge economies are held in the balance and there are a significant number of global users (gamers) that do not have the access required for digital distribution to the level games would require.

We only have to look at the so-called ground breaking paper shredding e-Books. They were going to revolutionize book sale, Newspapers were going to go online and be the &#039;ants=pants&#039; in news delivery. Neither has succeeded to the level either thought they would. 

Simply for the fact that 80% of the end users can not or do not have the access, the time, or the availability to download eBook, or read full news via the net. News paper soon dropped back to partial online distribution, gave reporters access to blogging software, and made the advertizers that support the papers happy by going back to full-fledged news print. 

As in all  honesty, WHO clicks on the ads in Newpaper online articles, about 2% if that. Whereas in a physical form, it is in their immediate view at all times, which then prompts them to perhaps act on their thoughts. Once a web page is closed, do you give the ad you saw moments ago a second thought ? 

No, didn&#039;t think so. The BIGGEST stumbling block will be getting revenue, sufficient, to cover the sale and production of games. Until that time, DD ass a sole means of delivering games is a long way off, but a joint possibility does exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the effort Publishers are going to these days to ensure sale. By using Collectors and Limited Editions with substantial gear included for not more than an added $10 . . . Collectors &#8211; of which I am one, do like to have something solid to hold on to. See, view and discuss with friends, rather than a pic on a screen.</p>
<p>They are creating a &#8220;desire to own&#8221; by doing so, and also upping the desire to retain the item, as you&#8217;ll see very few Collectors or real Limited Edition games back in the secondhand shelves a week later or even a month later. Given the high volume of sales of these, which Publishers have cottoned on to btw, we will not see the demise of Solid Disc Sales for some time, if at all.</p>
<p>That said, Digital DIstribution (DD) is or will be the way of the future, but there needs to be a marrying of the two, as literally millions of jobs lay in the balance, huge economies are held in the balance and there are a significant number of global users (gamers) that do not have the access required for digital distribution to the level games would require.</p>
<p>We only have to look at the so-called ground breaking paper shredding e-Books. They were going to revolutionize book sale, Newspapers were going to go online and be the &#8216;ants=pants&#8217; in news delivery. Neither has succeeded to the level either thought they would. </p>
<p>Simply for the fact that 80% of the end users can not or do not have the access, the time, or the availability to download eBook, or read full news via the net. News paper soon dropped back to partial online distribution, gave reporters access to blogging software, and made the advertizers that support the papers happy by going back to full-fledged news print. </p>
<p>As in all  honesty, WHO clicks on the ads in Newpaper online articles, about 2% if that. Whereas in a physical form, it is in their immediate view at all times, which then prompts them to perhaps act on their thoughts. Once a web page is closed, do you give the ad you saw moments ago a second thought ? </p>
<p>No, didn&#8217;t think so. The BIGGEST stumbling block will be getting revenue, sufficient, to cover the sale and production of games. Until that time, DD ass a sole means of delivering games is a long way off, but a joint possibility does exist.</p>
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		<title>By: bs angel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bs angel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome article. As a resident of a different continent, I especially enjoyed reading about the specifics of your neck of the woods. 

I have received correspondence from people who do not have internet connections and their frustrations with not being able to utilize that aspect of their service so that part especially made sense to me. I agree digital distribution is the way of the future, I just don&#039;t think the process is fine tuned enough yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome article. As a resident of a different continent, I especially enjoyed reading about the specifics of your neck of the woods. </p>
<p>I have received correspondence from people who do not have internet connections and their frustrations with not being able to utilize that aspect of their service so that part especially made sense to me. I agree digital distribution is the way of the future, I just don&#8217;t think the process is fine tuned enough yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Zath</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to like to have a physical box in my hand having bought a game, I used to enjoy reading through a huge manual as I rode home on the bus, I used to like displaying my games collection on shelves - but these days I just want to play the game on release day without fear of missing out and without added clutter into my home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to like to have a physical box in my hand having bought a game, I used to enjoy reading through a huge manual as I rode home on the bus, I used to like displaying my games collection on shelves &#8211; but these days I just want to play the game on release day without fear of missing out and without added clutter into my home.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadow Wave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shadow Wave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank god TPG is giving us a 500gb plan soon.  Unfortunetly Telstra need to give everyone ADSL2 first...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god TPG is giving us a 500gb plan soon.  Unfortunetly Telstra need to give everyone ADSL2 first&#8230;</p>
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