I was referring more in the greater sense than in the group that are ardent gamers such as yourself or many other that spend a great deal of time with games on a semi or hardcore basis.

It’s been shown that the % of gamers who own consoles, as oppsed to those who own PC’s spend less time per game and smaller sessions. AS many PC games such as the hardcore FPS’s, MMO, MMORPG’s etc etc require dedication, time, effort etc, whereas many of the console games, in general, are not so dedicated as many PC gamers.

Which doesn’t make one better or worse than the other, it’s just an interesting statistic that helps feed developers and publishers fueling games to the console market rather than PC market, as they know more games turn over due to shorter attention spans, short play life and the “next big thing syndrome” which exists more in consoles than in PC gaming per say.

The next Red Faction’s game is shaping up to be something all together different with its destructability, there was a great article about the level of it, and how each [art played a role in each element, and even time played a role.

Showing that a floor the was supported by steel beams would stay up, but, if the load on the floor was uneven, and due to heat, the steel would eventually buckle and the floor topple in the direction the beams gave way. Damn fine if you ask me.

I never accused you of saying that RF is way better than BC. I was just merely saying that from my hours of playing the game and watching my brother play the game i honestly do not remember that much extensive destruction in the game in terms of just sitting there and blowing up pathways in the mines.

Correct me if i am wrong but the was one mission in RF where it was in the later stages of the game you needed to escort some guy through these mines, yet there were the laser sort of poles blocking each pathway that you needed to deactivate. It was after the underwater section.

If the destruction you say was in the game then all i would of had to do was use my grenade/rocket launcher and blow a nice path way around it through the mine. Yet you could not the only thing i could do was blow chunks out of the wall.

“Plus, console gamers (in general) are a different breed and have shorter attention spans to PG hard core gamers. The gamers that would play Red Faction etc.” – I only ever played this on consoles and other than the destruction it was a typical FPS.

I was not saying “Hey Red Faction is better!” or “Battlefield should have had more destructability!” All Im saying is that it’s not something that is new to the FPS genre and that in Red Faction you could destroy more things.

Blowing up holes in walls because you needed to so that you could progress through the story. From watching a few trailers now since i no longer have the game, you could blow walls up but they led to another room of enemies to kill mainly due to the door being locked and no way to open it.

Yes you could blow chunks from the walls but that’s all really. Chunks and chunk. You couldn’t blow yourself all the way to China Mars..

RF didn’t have the same amount of destructibility but ah well it was not bad just really short