Those who use the “leaked” NXE code –
you could face permanent bans
Console “could” suffer permanent and irreversible lockouts.
Update #2: @07:30pm Tuesday 4th November:
Just in from Micorsoft, if you update using current NXE code, you will be unable to use XboxLIVE until the 19th . . However, no bans will apply from that point on . . Please see Major Nelson’s Twitter comments at end of this article:
UPDATE #1: Remember, the emphasis on this is “could” – not WILL . . .
For the “latest official stance” on it from MS’s own Forums, check it out here:
Look, but don't touch until 19th November ! You have been warned
As always, with the usual internet doing its thing, various early release code and Selected demo codes of the NXE have “leaked” out into the wild. Plus various offers of early code that have been floating around the net for a few weeks, comes this plan and simple warning from Microsoft Xbox – Division – DON’T install these files!
Warning: for those who do choose to download the files, copy them, have them loaded by legitimate owners or Licensed holders (those select few given the actual final code), you will face permanent bans and your 360′s suffer irreversible lock-outs which would basically render your Xbox 360′s un-usable. See above UPDATE
There were a limited number of Full Test Codes handed out to various media outlets so they could test and preview the NXE for their various publications and sites. These have been registered with that persons particular 360. No one else’s. So while they may transfer and work, they will not be recognized by XboxLive come the 19th and be banned and locked-out.
Some may have “leaked out” by other means, which is always the case. I have no idea why some of the “professionals” sign NDA’s in the first place, as they basically pay no attention to them, and they have no integrity around what they do sign anyhow. If they are willing to break something they sign and agree to, it says a lot about their level of personal integrity, or lack thereof.
If you have been offered, seen or tempted to download the NXE, just to see how it works, if you’ll like it etc, then WE WARN you now, DO NOT DO SO, and if some have loaded them – then we suggest that you remove them now. As come the 19th of November, you could find yourself with a nice looking, but very expensive door stop.
• Updated From Major Nelson:
Consoles with leaked NXE update disable Xbox Live until the 19th
Any unauthorized consoles with the New Xbox Experience won’t be able to sign on until Nov. 19
By T Sizzles
Major Nelson handed out some bad news for those who have updated their consoles with the leaked New Xbox Experience. Any unauthorized consoles that have the leaked update won’t be able to sign in until November 19- the date the update comes out to everyone else. This doesn’t apply to those who are part of the Preview Program, whose consoles will still function normally with the update. So, if you’re thinking of updating your console with the leaked verision, you’ll need to think to yourself: can you last 18 days without Xbox Live?
Twitter Code:
http://twitter.com/majornelson/status/985335341
Other sources: CVG
This has been an OXCGN Community Network Announcement:
Filed under: Console gaming, Industry News, Parental Gaming, Xbox 360, Xbox 360 News, Xbox Community Network Tagged: | New Xbox Experience, NXE, nxe code, nxe leaked code
You did read the update at the top of the article ? Didn’t you . . ?
Leading to Major Nelsons Twitter item and his comments. Initially it was aimed at those who broke their embargo and aimed squarely at those ppl . .Unfortunately too many ppl got it, so now they are after those that were on the the early release list to find out who leaked it, and those ppl won’t be on any further testing programs, that’s for sure.
You can’t blame them really (MS that is) as after all, you entrust some ppl to do the right thing, have them sign NDA’s (non disclosure agreements) and then they simply ignor those agreements as if they weren’t even there.
SO I hope MS do penalize those that broke the NDA’s, they need to. But all is mute now, we have the NXE up and running, and it works a treat.
ps has anyone who has the leaked version tried it today if so how did it go
thanks
They wont ban it Major said only banned until 19th of november plus what it says on twitter is will not be allowed doesnt say banned
Oh sod off. I had to install this NXE dashboard just to be able to play games I PAID for without constant freezing and other problems caused by Microsoft’s crappy hardware. So now I deserve to be banned and treated like a pirate? I don’t care about their stupid new dashboard design, I just NEEDED to be able to install games to the harddrive so I can play them properly.
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“then WE WARN you now, DO NOT DO SO, and if some have loaded them – then we suggest that you remove them now”
Is it even possible to remove it?
If so can someone tell me how because my dumb ass of a brother downloaded it and i cant play on my live account because of him.
Thanks for the help
@ Tarquin,
Yep, you’re probably right mate . . . we need to move on yeah!? . . . we all get it wrong sometimes . . . still, would you like to be called a liar simply for publishing what you’re told to publish ? . . . But yes, enough on this . . . let’s move on and see what the NXE brings us, we hope to have the ability to bring everyone a rundown on it, once we are given ‘permission’ to print it.
xboxoz360,
Having read everyone’s comments, it seems to me that you are an idiot, and that you love yourself a fair amount.
Just accept that you got it wrong. It’s not the end of the World You’re acting like a 7-year-old. Get a grip, lad.
@ Somegal,
We were given the information from a MS FOrum Admin/Md. He had published it only moments befoire from advise from MS to do so.
We, as a community network followed suit.
We provide the link as he requested later on as a back up .
He then asked us to ad the last Update when he was told of the new news. SO Don’t go wagging the finger at us, we simply placed what we were asked to upo on the site. If you like, I could show you the emails and PM’s, but I don’t think I need to do that.
Plus the whole original item used the work COULD possibly face bans and there COULD be the chance that your 360 “may not work” after 19th. NOt that it WOULD happen and that ppl WOULD get banned.
Again, We printed what we were asked to do so, not make something up just for the hell of it. My personal opinion at the time was WTF, how could they, but that is not what we are here for. I’m happy they did clear it up publicily, and have now looked at ways to get those really responsible, rather than the end user.
Those that broke their NDA’s in the first place.
I wont judge you for a small typo :O
@xboxoz360, You get all offended because people don’t read your update. Well, what did you expect after publishing an inflammatory article with flat out lies about potential bans? You have failed in your lies and responses and challenges to your lies to provide any links to the claims you have made that Microsoft said there would be bans. Further after being proven wrong you feel slighted and get rude when people don’t acknowledge your updates.
BTW – Here is a legit way to get the update while not in the program. Find someone who has the update legitimately, and attach their HDD to your console. Your console will get updated, but not be able to connect to Live. You were not in the program.
Lastly, you published this inflammatory article full of lies on November 3. It was already established and fact that Microsoft would not be banning on November 1. So, the only purpose of this article was full of lies and poor journalist integrity was to draw traffic to your site as doing so through good factual writing was not working for you.
We all make TYPOS every now and then, even EDGE magazine makes its fair share each month, so I think I’m aloud a few . .
Besides – who wants to be a conformist all the time?
I kinda liked the Xbox New Experience better . . . . .
You could also change the XNE to NXE like it should be
@ steve30x, And yes, that is where it stands now, but earlier in the day, when this was “reported” not NOW!!!!, it was “suggested (read the heading “could” get banned) that those who downloaded and used the NXE “could face bans” . .Try reading.
We then received a notice from MS saying, please update to reflect current status . . . which we did hello . . . god, what is wrong with you, you should be happy not complaining shezzes . . .
@ wiispot.nl
Try reading . .As steve and this site has pointed out in an UPDATE, (at the very top and beginning of the article, where all UPDATES should go and be READ first – it now stands that if you have installed NXE, then you will not be able to connect too XBL, and come the 19th however, you “should” be able to do so without any fear of a ban . . . god, do ppl actually READ before hitting the keys on the keypad . . probably not.
Our job it to report what is directed to us by MS or their representatives, which we do. We CAN not and will not be held responsible for what THEY ask us to publish ON THEIR BEHALF . . we simply provide the news for the Xbox Community, which is WHY we are and Official Friend of Xbox and registered with MS locally and in the US . .
So yes Steve, you are right, and yes, I was also right . . They will no doubt now be going after those clowns that initially broke their NDA”s with MS and impose restrictions to those individuals, as they have to some stores who have broken street dates of late . . by supposedly restricting goods of 1st party titles to them.
ps. im installing fallout 3 as we speak
well i want to see if i get banned
i have it up and running now only no xbl but if i can’t connect on the 19th than im gonna mod the hell out of my xbox and microsoft is not seeing any money from me ever again 
[quote]If an unregistered console is updated with the NXE update, that console will not be able to connect to Xbox LIVE until the NXE has been officially released on November 19th.[/quote]
It was not fact. The fact was that if you upgraded to the NXE (not XNE) you will not be able to connect to Xbox Live until the 19th ov November.
@ steve30x
And unless you do not know what an UPDATE is, it’s when a company re-thinks its moves and makes an “official statement” about a subject, which is not uncommon in the business, and many a report has been turned around due to public outcry. Which is why we report things in the FIRST PLACE.
At the time of going to press, the “Official Stand WAS what was reported. FACT. DO you think MS would have simply gone ahead with it’s plans if the public had not of made such a public fuss . .The forums lite up, the sites were sending url’s through and MS could see that the actions of a few, were in fact affecting many.
We were then given a first Update, which we reported and then finally and second one, which is no doubt in light of the concerns many were having around some idiots breaking their NDA”s.
It seems those responsible for breaking the NDA’s may well be the one punished, which I 110% agree with, rather than punish the end user who unwittingly uses a product.
So perhaps YOU might like to get YOUR facts right before sticking your soize 10 foot in it, and understand how the process works, instead of assuming how it works.
We are first and foremost a Xbox Community site, so we keep the community aware of things actually happening, not conjecture or rumours. These things are reported to us from MS, not by some other 3rd party.
We’re not in the business of making things up, it never helps anyone if a site does that . . .
LOL Another one who is scare mongering. Just as the news item was updated to say that microsoft themselves said there will be no bans handed out. Get your facts right before posting crap like this for gods sake.
Wow Xino’s fucking retarded…
@ Whetzel
That’s the problem see mate, no offence meant okay. But so many within the industry do NOT abide by the very rules laid down, an dthus spread that free-for-all approach as they have no regard for any terms or conditions they sign.
We on the other hand do, and believe that if we sign a NDA, that is what it means, None Disclosure Agreement . .and it’s 4-5 pages bloody long explaining every aspect of what you can and can not do, say etc.
The unfortunate thing is, these ppl pass stuff onto you, then do NOT tell them of what they signed for, and you don’t kbnow or believe there is anything attached to it. Much the same as when some fence passes off stolen gear to a 3rd party, he’s NOT going to say Hey mate, btw, don’t show this to anyone, I stole it . . hehehe but you get what I mean.
And that applies to all those who complain “but hey, I didn’t know – I’m a victim here” ,.. . well yes, and no. One, you need to know that if a company doesn’t make something “public” then sure as hell means that it is NOT meant to be out in the wild, and others have been give the PRIVILEGE of seeing it first or testing it out first – with conditions . make sense . .?!
SO as much as some might not like it, many of you have been scammed into taking something that really doesn’t belong to you, and that wasn’t meant for “public distribution” in the first place – yet.
And for those of you that believe everything should be FREE with no consequences for using it, then you’re fooling yourself. the world does NOT run or work like that, thanks god.
If it was Sony, Nintendo (both of which have solid NDA’s too I might add, and breaking those gets you in deep shite, that’s for sure. Anyone that breaks a NDA or an agreement with these firms by handing on material NOT meant for the general public is stealing goods knowingly, you on the other hand are receiving goods – all be it unknowingly. Which is WHY “receiving ” in the eyes of the law is seen as a higher crime than stealing . .
Again, no offense meant to anyone here, but in all honesty, no company , be it MS, Sony etc will just hand out their IP for anyone to use until they are ready. That is why it is after all called Intellectual Property . .
Also:
Just to let some of you know.
As explained to Whetzel:
When we sign the NDA’s with MS, we have to do it in triplicate, so no excuse for saying “oh shit, I didn’t know that” . . it has to have every page of the 4 page doc initialled to say you read it . . .and 2 copies are sent back to MS, 1 to the local MS head Office, the other to the US head office in Redmond . . . .
Then, every writer on this site MUST sign a similar NDA so that we as the owners are also making sure the writers abid by the NDA’s, as if they do not, WE are held responsible for THEIR actions. SO each one has to do the same as we do . .
Getthe picture now.
SO there’s no excuse that some clown broke his agreement and gove you a copy without telling any of you. He was the one that broke the law, but unfortunately, you’re the ones “using” the goods, which carries a stronger penalty as far as the LAW is concerned . . hope that helps clear things up a little. Nothing is always as simply as it may seem, or be made out to be.
ESPECIALLY SINCE THE PS3′S ONLINE SERVICE IS FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They cant ban us. Yeah i downloaded it, its really nice, aint gonna lie. If anything Microsoft should be excited that so many people actually want this update. id rather have people downloading thousands of copies of the internet than having no one want it. Its BS when you say were gonna get banned. I wish dey would try to ban me, especially when they said you wont be able to access it until Nov. 19! that would make Microsoft fat liars! Since so many people (i checked recently and the download button had been clicked over 10,000 times: on one website) have downloaded the update Microsoft would lose alot of customers and long time supporters to tha PS3!
Yeah, it makes sense, but it’s still a bummer for those of us who didn’t know any better. I didn’t even realize that the early participants had to sign an NDA.
Oh well, for now my 360 that has the NXE installed on it is staying unplugged from the internet until the 19th and I just hope I’m not permanently banned.
Thanks for shedding some light on the subject.
@ Whetzel
I agree mate, but at the same time, we were offered the XNE code, and as always, to those who it was offered to, it DID come with the “usual caveats” that being, that one must stick to the NDA’s we have signed.
Unfortunately, or fortunately as the case maybe, there were only 6 copies available here at that time, and MAJOR sites and publications get first crack at anything on offer, so we missed out.
We knew that it came with the NDA’s we HAVE to sign in order to participate in ANY MS (applies to Sony and Nintendo btw ppl) testing or information sharing. If you don’t sign it (NDA’s) then you don’t become part of the group or Testing Community etc.
Simple really. SO it’s “given” that those who get these things KNOW in advance that there ARE restrictions imposed. If you (anyone) gets it from someone who has broken those NDA’s, and THEY fail to tell you of the possible ramifications, then that is that persons fault for not telling you.
As MS (Sony or whomever) has already told the ‘original’ person who have signed NDA’s with MS (Sony etc) and MS etc have those back in their legal departments hand from their normal participants within the industry . . Does that make some sort of sense – sort of.
The only problem I have with this is that some people (myself included) downloaded and installed the NXE prior to them saying that they would ban people. I had read a copy of the e-mail posted above and didn’t think that it was that big of a deal to MS if it got installed to 360′s outside of the early release participants. Had I known that I could risk a possible permanent ban, I would have never installed it.
I have two 360′s and I only installed the NXE on one of them just to check it out. I just think that it would be really unfair to permanently ban people without telling everyone that they would do so prior to it being released to the early participants. Had MS told everyone prior to, then I would say that it serves everyone right if they get banned, but as it is, I don’t think it would be fair or a smart business move.
Or perhaps gamers should READ more before they use product that comes with conditions. . . . you can not blame a company for ones own inability to read and check out terms of use and if there are conditions attached. We knew there were conditions, it’s a given in the industry. You’re NOT in the industry, so it’s expected of you to read up on it, not MS/Sony etc to send you a personal email.
Because while it is IP, its not for sale and thereby not pirating! If you’ve got software that’s free, but still in beta stages and it gets leaked to fans, not rival opposition what would you do! You gonna slap the hand that feeds you! Its people like you that think this goody two shoes act is really righteous, but its not!
I have the NXE on my 360 and wouldn’t care if it got banned or not! Cause I’ve got another 360 in the wings, 2. I don’t play many online multiplayer games if ever! 3. I only use xbl to DL demos and look to see whos on and chat!
I don’t get why they would wanna ban someone like me for checking out the excellent job they’ve done so far! I mean, I’m not sellin it to people, nor am I trying to decipher the script and code that was written on it to make something better! And no I didn’t wanna wait 2 and a 1/2 wks, is it a crime! Don’t be mad cause I have something new and you don’t just yet!
Its just like when Fallout 3 and GoW2 dropped early, everyone was talking out the side of their necks about the banhammer falling, but look at it now, nothing, not a damn thing!
Haters, go eat a cum filled gym sock and gargle w/ the remaining saliva! I’m not getting banned and I’m not gonna stop until ya’ mom come over for MILF time w/ me!
thats bull shit man…why did microsoft say that if people have the preview that isn’t apart of the bata test…we would have to wait untell the 19th to go online…..they knew about this leak from day one…they should of worn people about this from day one…..if i get band i anit buyin a new 360….thanks microsoft now i might have to buy a dam ps3
Yes, quite true, and that applies to those who have been REGISTERED with MS, and are in the program, NOT those outside the program and have got the code through “other means” . The item WE got straight from MS directly yesterday, post that notice btw, was that – yes, in some case (those outside that mentioned in your post) would in fact be banned and could end up with bricked 360′s . . .
So while in context with the PARTICIPANTS, the fact is they will not suffer any problems come the 19th November, those who are NOT part of the program,and those who get the code through nefarious ways will or could suffer problems. That’s from MS and up on their own MS main site and in their forums as of YESTERDAY.
anyone read this
ere’s a copy of the letter that was emailed to the official NXE Participants *SP*
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The Xbox 360 Fall Flash update will be available to you by 8pm PST on October 30th (11pm EST on October 30th, 3am GMT on October 31st).
While exploring the New Xbox Experience (NXE), you may come across bugs or have some suggestions. Please share those with us by going to Microsoft Connect and clicking on the Feedback link.
If you would like to post comments regarding your experiences with the New Xbox Experience, or interact with other preview participants please use the Newsgroups link on the connect site. Although we are monitoring the newsgroups, all bugs and suggestions should be filed using the Feedback link.
If you need technical assistance with the Xbox 360 Fall Flash and you’re in the US or Canada and speak English; you can call #. Phone lines will be open between the hours of 8am and 6pm CST. Please do not publish or share this phone number with people that are not participating in the Preview Program
>>>>> THIS PART STATES THAT YOU WILL NOT GET PERMABANNED! <<<<<
In participation with this program, you should not move your storage device (hard drive, or memory unit if you do not have a hard drive) to any other console as it will also update that console. If an unregistered console is updated with the NXE update, that console will not be able to connect to Xbox LIVE until the NXE has been officially released on November 19th.
Please remember that your participation in the Public Preview Program is subject to the Xbox LIVE Terms of Use.
We thank you for your participation and hope that you enjoy the New Xbox Experience.
See you online,
The Xbox 360 team
@ jeff eastman
Agree 110% mate . . .it also shows the level of disrespect many have for the legal papers they sign their name to when dealing with IP and “Insider Secretes”
A NDA is there for a reason, and if one puts ones name to it, it’s your integrity you are putting on the line.
If you break that agreement, then that says a lot about ones person integrity, or lack thereof. It urkes me to know that many that are trusted with final code of high AAA title games, that have signed and agreed to such NDA’s willingly and knowingly ‘steal’ the code and send it off onto the net . . .all for the sole purpose of being the first to have it up, yet these ppl are in high positions within a major firm . . why be there if they think so lowly of their profession. It just boggles my mind . .
More power to MS, Sony or whomever chooses to take these people to court, or impose bans and brick their hardware, they deserve it.
Xino:
Why do they need to download it off the net to use it now when they can wait just over 2 weeks to get their hands on it for free.
Why do they feel the urge to download it illegally and use it? The NXE hasn’t been made publicly available yet so if you download it off the net then you are illegally downloading it simple.
i’ll tell you why because so many damned people today think they can flout any rules they please because they feel they dont have to play the same rules as the rest of us. simply put they think that they are better than the rest of us. i say bullshit to that notion. enjoy your doorstop sir
SO what you’re saying is that owning illegal product, IP, is perfectly fine and okay, and everyone should have the right to do so, and not pay for it if they choose to . righht.
It’s why it is called IP, because it “Belongs” to someone else, andthat code, is still subject to repair before release, and using it ‘could’ also do your console damage. Ever thought of that.
MS, Sony or anyone has the right to impose fines and or bans for aquiring their software through unapproved means, it’s the same with piracy . .which this is in its own way. Wait 15 days and get it for free without the hassles, and we, as an Xbox Community Site have every right to publish MS announcements . . it’s what we are here for in the first place.
I’m damn sue Sony would be doing the same thing around anyone grabbing it’s main backend software . . no doubt you also approve of piracy . .
Oh please!
The program was developed free! It was meant for everyone who owns a 360. Why in the world should they ban us for having a “PREVIEW” version!?
It’s like saying, Microsoft will ban people for using Windows Live 9 beta:/ When that program is free.
Please enough of all these “banning” stuff, they are just there to scare people. The reason why Microsoft allowed limited numbers of people, is so the rest won’t have a spoiler the day the NXE gets released.
It’s like Games developers, they decide to keep their mouth shut about a game, later reviewing little details of the game at different conventions. When the game finally gets released, users will have all the surprises and no spoilers.
If Microsoft bans people who owned the leaked version, they must be out of their mind.
In fact they would be saving us £40 a year! Because I work hard for my job, I use £40 just to play games online!
Plus a lot of people will just turn away.
The Leaked NXE only prevents you from using Xbox Live, that’s the downside!
Don’t get it twisted.:/