Without that detail, we are simply sitting in a box with a car on a stick, The details take that feeling away.

And being in in-car-view in Grid and spinning over the top of another car and landing on the roof is scary as well as amazing.

1: Rollovers….I must say it’s about damn time. The amount of excitment that will add is gonna be awsome. I can see the carnage now.

2: Cockpit View…..How many of us can actually say that we have sat in the finest motor cars on the planet. To be honest I don’t even know what the interior of a 911 GT3 looks like(one of my dream cars). Now I will be able to sit behind the virtual wheel of all of my favorite cars.

Check those of the Aston Martin and the other cars actually racinf and you’ll see drivers mate.

Each genre should stay within their own fields, otherwise each one must make sacrifices in some aspects in order to accommodate the other. Be that in physics, gameplay, visuals or vehicles.

And PLEASE, associating both GT5 and Forza 3 with the likes of Split-Second (which is a Arcade racer knock-off the likes of Burnout etc). NFS Shift (an semi-arcade game, and a good one at that, but NOT of GT or Forza levels), BLUR (an absolute bastardised game if ever I saw one, Bizarre have lost my respect as a decent car developer) etc is absurd. Those games are not in the same league as both Forza and GT . . .not by a country mile. Very different sub-genres altogether mate. Learn a little about the various genres before throwing them all in the same basket.

If you’re going to throw GT5 and Forza in with racing games, then you’d be throwing them in with the likes of V8 Supercar 2/3 of the past, V8 Superstars coming out of Italy this month, Race Pro which is definitely a racing sim and Grid to some extent, but is still arcade, but visually great and about RACING not damage and destruction. GT and Forza are about “Racing, racing the line and great looking manufacturers vehicles. Not nondescript vehicles that all look the same and blow things up . .

That’s what arcade racers are for, ppl like you. You probably play GT5 Pro to see how bad a crash you can have and how much mayhem you can cause, rather than trimming tenths of a second off times to become some of the best virtual race drivers online in the world like many gamers do in both Forza and GT.

And sorry, but the team behind Forza are in fact mostly racing drivers, mechanics and race enthusiast. just like those on GT5 . .so please, make sure you have the facts before throwing stuff around, and get your genres right before sticking your oversized foot in your mouth and showing everyone how biased and immature you are.

BLUR . . I nearly chocked on my dinner . . honestly . . you were joking – right???

Even withthe game being almost 2 yrs old, there’s still lots to play with, now add that, to say 200 other games released in 2 yrs, and would you really have time to plauy properly with all 900 cars in ONE car?? not just plonk your backside in it, go around thetrack and say, Hey, I drove all 900 cars – whoppie-do!

Look at Grid, excellent fun game, limited cars in comparison, but balls-to-the-wall fun and there’s always a new way of using a car on a different track combination. Have you (anyone) driven every car in Grid on every track in full races and in the free race mode . . be honest here fellas, have you, 80-90% probably haven’t.

In the end it comes down to greed and wanting to have one-up-mans-ship on someone else. Which is fine, but having 400 (plus there WILL be additional DLC – I’m 100% certain of that even after the second disc loaded with different tracks and gear like the video editing program) cars in one game, 100 tracks – man, you’ll be doing really well to race half of those on each track variation in 6 months..