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		<title>By: name</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thats not exactly true, borderlands sales are through the roof.
and brutal legend has sold quite well too.
dead space did not sell too bad either, EA is just having a fit because dead space extraction did not sell well.
they should know
1 FPS dont sell well on wii
2 third party games dont sell well on wii, basically if it does not have mario in front of it, it wont sell well.
3 people do not want a on rails shooter for gods sake this is 2009 not 1959.
dead space was perfect why the hell did they have to completley destroy it?
IPs are a delicate thing, you have to release them at the right time.
hence why heavy rain got set back till next year, it would of been killed by MW2 and AC2 and L4D2.
may-july is the perfect time to release new IPs because well basically theres no games out then, so gamers have no choice but to buy those new IPs.
EA did not do there homework, they release dead space extraction against mario brothers wii.
which one do you think is going to win?
quite obvious.
EA did not do their research, they stuffed up and are to pathetic to admit it.
their like my ex boss, its never my fault.
just own up to it already!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats not exactly true, borderlands sales are through the roof.<br />
and brutal legend has sold quite well too.<br />
dead space did not sell too bad either, EA is just having a fit because dead space extraction did not sell well.<br />
they should know<br />
1 FPS dont sell well on wii<br />
2 third party games dont sell well on wii, basically if it does not have mario in front of it, it wont sell well.<br />
3 people do not want a on rails shooter for gods sake this is 2009 not 1959.<br />
dead space was perfect why the hell did they have to completley destroy it?<br />
IPs are a delicate thing, you have to release them at the right time.<br />
hence why heavy rain got set back till next year, it would of been killed by MW2 and AC2 and L4D2.<br />
may-july is the perfect time to release new IPs because well basically theres no games out then, so gamers have no choice but to buy those new IPs.<br />
EA did not do there homework, they release dead space extraction against mario brothers wii.<br />
which one do you think is going to win?<br />
quite obvious.<br />
EA did not do their research, they stuffed up and are to pathetic to admit it.<br />
their like my ex boss, its never my fault.<br />
just own up to it already!</p>
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		<title>By: name</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[name]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what is it with developers and running their mouth like a speed train lately?
i mean first it was dan greenwalt the most arrogant annoying person i have ever seen.
than it was dice with there &quot;our game supports dedicated servers&quot; BS. OK I GET IT YOU DONT HAVE TO TELL ME 10 TIMES!
and now EA with this &quot;no studio has the track record we do&quot;
O PLEASE! dont make me start.
they turn out crap after crap after crap for years, than maraciously turn it around and release 3 or 4 good games and thats it there now the worlds best development studio?
O PLEASE GET OVER YOURSELVES!
i give respect to developers that have earned it.
like valve, ID software, crytek, naughty dog, guerrilla games, polyphony digital, quantic dream.
these devs have turned out quality after quality NEVER releasing a bad game.
EA has a long, long, long, long, long, long, long way to go till they can roll with the big boys.
and if mirrors edge 2 or dead space 2 were in that cancellation im not going to be a happy chappy. 
they keep the crap like madden but chuck the good stuff like dead space 2?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is it with developers and running their mouth like a speed train lately?<br />
i mean first it was dan greenwalt the most arrogant annoying person i have ever seen.<br />
than it was dice with there &#8220;our game supports dedicated servers&#8221; BS. OK I GET IT YOU DONT HAVE TO TELL ME 10 TIMES!<br />
and now EA with this &#8220;no studio has the track record we do&#8221;<br />
O PLEASE! dont make me start.<br />
they turn out crap after crap after crap for years, than maraciously turn it around and release 3 or 4 good games and thats it there now the worlds best development studio?<br />
O PLEASE GET OVER YOURSELVES!<br />
i give respect to developers that have earned it.<br />
like valve, ID software, crytek, naughty dog, guerrilla games, polyphony digital, quantic dream.<br />
these devs have turned out quality after quality NEVER releasing a bad game.<br />
EA has a long, long, long, long, long, long, long way to go till they can roll with the big boys.<br />
and if mirrors edge 2 or dead space 2 were in that cancellation im not going to be a happy chappy.<br />
they keep the crap like madden but chuck the good stuff like dead space 2?</p>
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		<title>By: dkpatriarch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dkpatriarch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes there are a lot of financial reasons for the layoffs and a lot of decisions that were made that led to their situation besides investing in new IPs.  

I have said that they released their new IPs last year at a bad time, and again this year they have chosen the end of year where they have to compete with other huge titles.

However their new IPs not making what they hoped would have an impact on their strategy for game making in the future.  Because we didn&#039;t buy their new IPs in the numbers they want they will conclude it isn&#039;t worth doing them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes there are a lot of financial reasons for the layoffs and a lot of decisions that were made that led to their situation besides investing in new IPs.  </p>
<p>I have said that they released their new IPs last year at a bad time, and again this year they have chosen the end of year where they have to compete with other huge titles.</p>
<p>However their new IPs not making what they hoped would have an impact on their strategy for game making in the future.  Because we didn&#8217;t buy their new IPs in the numbers they want they will conclude it isn&#8217;t worth doing them.</p>
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		<title>By: dkpatriarch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dkpatriarch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you that EA are currently okay with their release mix of new and old, but the quote above by the CEO in the article indicates that they could be changing their current position.

A balance of new IP risks and sure-fire sequels is ideal, but will the current economic climate and gamer buying choices encourage that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that EA are currently okay with their release mix of new and old, but the quote above by the CEO in the article indicates that they could be changing their current position.</p>
<p>A balance of new IP risks and sure-fire sequels is ideal, but will the current economic climate and gamer buying choices encourage that?</p>
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		<title>By: samik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[samik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent article, and you are absolutely correct about EA, they have been the most creative studio in the last 2 years contrary to public opinion while supposed &quot;innovators&quot; such as Nintendo have been churning out unimaginative sequels. I must admit, I myself havent bough Mirror&#039;s edge or Dead Space but did go out an buy Brutal legend, would be a tragedy if Tim S never made another title.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, and you are absolutely correct about EA, they have been the most creative studio in the last 2 years contrary to public opinion while supposed &#8220;innovators&#8221; such as Nintendo have been churning out unimaginative sequels. I must admit, I myself havent bough Mirror&#8217;s edge or Dead Space but did go out an buy Brutal legend, would be a tragedy if Tim S never made another title.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dirk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt new IP ideas would be the only reason EA would lay off employees.  The tough economy alone could have done it.  People are not buying video games because they don&#039;t have the money not because they don&#039;t necessarily like what EA is doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt new IP ideas would be the only reason EA would lay off employees.  The tough economy alone could have done it.  People are not buying video games because they don&#8217;t have the money not because they don&#8217;t necessarily like what EA is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: EA cruncher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EA cruncher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by the way HOW LOOOOONG are we gamers  suppose to play call of duty, devil may cry, modern warfare,mass effect, assassin creed,dead space,heavy rain,splinter cell???????  til each game get sequal 18????  enough is enough already good lord   what happen to variety???  why not add ps2 or ps1 titles on ps3  same games over and over is boring
my ps3 sit collecting dust  no variety for this generation.
cant believe only titles i do have and will have is  R&amp;C TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION, QUEST FOR BOOTY,A CRACK IN TIME.  and GRAN TURISMO 5  when it&#039;s released.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way HOW LOOOOONG are we gamers  suppose to play call of duty, devil may cry, modern warfare,mass effect, assassin creed,dead space,heavy rain,splinter cell???????  til each game get sequal 18????  enough is enough already good lord   what happen to variety???  why not add ps2 or ps1 titles on ps3  same games over and over is boring<br />
my ps3 sit collecting dust  no variety for this generation.<br />
cant believe only titles i do have and will have is  R&amp;C TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION, QUEST FOR BOOTY,A CRACK IN TIME.  and GRAN TURISMO 5  when it&#8217;s released.</p>
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		<title>By: EA cruncher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EA cruncher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[last one

EA i gurantee if u up-grade highstakes for ps3 with shift graphics,  even if you dont change gamplay  but graphic only   bet you&#039;ll sell over 3 million  copies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>last one</p>
<p>EA i gurantee if u up-grade highstakes for ps3 with shift graphics,  even if you dont change gamplay  but graphic only   bet you&#8217;ll sell over 3 million  copies.</p>
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		<title>By: EA cruncher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EA cruncher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S.
what made NFS--NFS  it had COPS!!!    thats what we gamers want in NFS!!!!!   we dont want NFS to compete against FORZA 3, GRAN TURISMO 5, GRID
let those 3 games compete.   and plz!!!  dont fuse NFS with BURNOUT keep need for speed ... need for speed.
it is the need for speeding, the need to out run COPS, the need to crash into COPS, the need to beat your opponet to finishline, the need to get excited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.<br />
what made NFS&#8211;NFS  it had COPS!!!    thats what we gamers want in NFS!!!!!   we dont want NFS to compete against FORZA 3, GRAN TURISMO 5, GRID<br />
let those 3 games compete.   and plz!!!  dont fuse NFS with BURNOUT keep need for speed &#8230; need for speed.<br />
it is the need for speeding, the need to out run COPS, the need to crash into COPS, the need to beat your opponet to finishline, the need to get excited.</p>
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		<title>By: LordCancer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LordCancer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comparing dead space to gear of war or modern warfare 2 is absurd.... for one survival horror games are niche products that service a community of gamers who like playing crappy games.

2nd, mirrors edge was a $60 vomit inducing no guns, no multiplayer shooter... excuse me, but jumping off buildings isn&#039;t innovative and head bob are you serious? The game boils down to being a single player time trial event... big whoop. Should have come with a throw up bag, I might have purchased it for that novelty alone.

Our fault? Didn&#039;t ea heavily invest in the wii and didn&#039;t they just spend hundreds of millions to buy that nonsense casual developer? 

Lets be frank here, I don&#039;t buy ea games at launch if at all for numerous reasons of which there past business practice and current dlc scams etc the point is the old/new ea as far as I&#039;m concerned is still and has always been the same ea.

They can&#039;t spend a decade or more screwing gamers and then half a console cycle making a couple of new ip&#039;s and expect the damage they done to be wiped clean. Some gamers have long memories, if ea wants to get my business back there gonna have to make a concerted effort and sustained effort to convince me that they changed there ways.

Suggesting the consumer is responsible for anything is absurd. I&#039;m not entitled to buy ea games and games built around head bob and survival horror genres are hardly innovative.

If ea thinks the only way they can make money is to whore madden, battlefield, need for speed then there sadly mistaken because there not growing the market for consumers for those products.  I&#039;d suggest they have to  work hard just to keep those consumers. I play 1 out of every 10 need for speed games.

I&#039;m not buying madden games ever. I will not buy a new battlefield game every year in fact I&#039;ve never played a battlefield game. I can recall two ea games I recently purchased at full price time splitters future perfect which I liked and need for speed black edition on xbox which as for limited editions go was one of the biggest rip offs.

Don&#039;t blame me, ea has to compete for market share and if they failed that&#039;s there problem not mine. If they can&#039;t compete with other higher caliber developers then perhaps they should downsize and if they really think they can grow there market share by making the same games ever year then let them try. I Really don&#039;t care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing dead space to gear of war or modern warfare 2 is absurd&#8230;. for one survival horror games are niche products that service a community of gamers who like playing crappy games.</p>
<p>2nd, mirrors edge was a $60 vomit inducing no guns, no multiplayer shooter&#8230; excuse me, but jumping off buildings isn&#8217;t innovative and head bob are you serious? The game boils down to being a single player time trial event&#8230; big whoop. Should have come with a throw up bag, I might have purchased it for that novelty alone.</p>
<p>Our fault? Didn&#8217;t ea heavily invest in the wii and didn&#8217;t they just spend hundreds of millions to buy that nonsense casual developer? </p>
<p>Lets be frank here, I don&#8217;t buy ea games at launch if at all for numerous reasons of which there past business practice and current dlc scams etc the point is the old/new ea as far as I&#8217;m concerned is still and has always been the same ea.</p>
<p>They can&#8217;t spend a decade or more screwing gamers and then half a console cycle making a couple of new ip&#8217;s and expect the damage they done to be wiped clean. Some gamers have long memories, if ea wants to get my business back there gonna have to make a concerted effort and sustained effort to convince me that they changed there ways.</p>
<p>Suggesting the consumer is responsible for anything is absurd. I&#8217;m not entitled to buy ea games and games built around head bob and survival horror genres are hardly innovative.</p>
<p>If ea thinks the only way they can make money is to whore madden, battlefield, need for speed then there sadly mistaken because there not growing the market for consumers for those products.  I&#8217;d suggest they have to  work hard just to keep those consumers. I play 1 out of every 10 need for speed games.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not buying madden games ever. I will not buy a new battlefield game every year in fact I&#8217;ve never played a battlefield game. I can recall two ea games I recently purchased at full price time splitters future perfect which I liked and need for speed black edition on xbox which as for limited editions go was one of the biggest rip offs.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t blame me, ea has to compete for market share and if they failed that&#8217;s there problem not mine. If they can&#8217;t compete with other higher caliber developers then perhaps they should downsize and if they really think they can grow there market share by making the same games ever year then let them try. I Really don&#8217;t care.</p>
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